Experimental Emacs Hangout 2015-02-18
| emacsIn which we talked about Hydra (0:11), Helm (0:22), packages (0:25), Quelpa/quse-package (0:29), EWW (0:30), Org Mode (0:40), global-flycheck-mode (0:51), widget, TRAMP (1:15), conferences/hangouts (1:26), more Hydra (1:28), Emacs Lisp (1:32), command-history (1:35), Emacs (1:38), plans for getting better (1:44), latexmk (1:49), and other things. (Times are approximate.)
Other questions/comments:
- Not a question, but I just learned about command-history. Which is a great way to whip up a function. I’m amazed that I just discovered it. – Jonathan Hill
- I saw something in 24.4 change log about a notification system. Could that maybe solve your problem? – Mitchell Hunter
- On Air viewers cannot see Sasha due to Sridhar presenting. – Marc Tamsky
- Anyone using tabs? – Levi Strope
The next Emacs Hangout will be on March 18, 2015, at 8 PM Toronto time (12 midnight GMT) https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/cbj3rg26d8j9ifaiff5uq00ncr4
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Text chat:
| JJ Asghar | 8:01 PM | Russell: http://blog.binchen.org/posts/notes-on-using-gnus.html |
| Sridhar Ratnakumar | 8:01 PM | http://www.srid.ca/emacs/ |
| Michael Hoffman | 8:03 PM | hi sorry i need to hook up my camera |
| Jason Lewis | 8:04 PM | https://marmalade-repo.org/packages/winner-mode-enable |
| Michael Hoffman | 8:05 PM | brb tech issues |
| Michael Hoffman | 8:07 PM | sorry guys looks like my mic isn’t going to work without a reboot sure, thanks so much |
| Michael Hoffman | 8:08 PM | can someone repost that gmail/gnus link? that sounded awesome |
| Sridhar Ratnakumar | 8:08 PM | http://blog.binchen.org/posts/notes-on-using-gnus.html |
| Michael Hoffman | 8:09 PM | thanks Sridhar |
| Bob Erb | 8:09 PM | ace-jump-mode |
| Michael Hoffman | 8:12 PM | I find `guide-key-mode` very helpful for remembering keybindings as well |
| Sridhar Ratnakumar | 8:13 PM | https://github.com/abo-abo/hydra |
| Michael Hoffman | 8:14 PM | Sacha can you increase your font siz e? thanks |
| Michael Hoffman | 8:19 PM | that’s just an example this is my guide-key setup (require-package guide-key guide-key) (setq guide-key/guide-key-sequence ‘(“C-x” “C-c”)) (setq guide-key/recursive-key-sequence-flag t) (setq guide-key/idle-delay 0.7) |
| Sridhar Ratnakumar | 8:20 PM | pretty useful |
| Michael Hoffman | 8:20 PM | I don’t see any reason why not to set it up for everything C-x if you set it up with an idle-delay of 0.7 or something then it usually won’t bother you unless you can’t remember |
| JJ Asghar | 8:23 PM | ;; i need tab complete (define-key helm-map (kbd “<tab>”) ‘helm-execute-persistent-action) |
| Sridhar Ratnakumar | 8:23 PM | thx |
| JJ Asghar | 8:23 PM | |
| Sridhar Ratnakumar | 8:23 PM | (we are talking about https://github.com/emacs-helm ) |
| Michael Hoffman | 8:25 PM | has anyone tried the eww web browser it’s definitely a curiosity more than a useful thing |
| Russell Black | 8:25 PM | I agree |
| Michael Hoffman | 8:25 PM | although i can see cases where it would be useful i keep my .emacs in version control |
| me | 8:26 PM | I’ve tried eww a little bit, but I haven’t quite gotten the hang of using it. |
| Michael Hoffman | 8:26 PM | i set up a macro to require or install a package |
| Jacob MacDonald | 8:26 PM | https://github.com/jaccarmac/quse-package |
| me | 8:26 PM | Mostly I just use browse-url to open things in Chrome |
| Michael Hoffman | 8:27 PM | ;; XXX: seems to hang when trying to (package-install) at compile time? (defmacro require-package (feature &optional package) “Require FEATURE or `package-install` PACKAGE. Default PACKAGE is FEATURE.” ;; for debugging (message “(require-package %s %s)” feature package) (let ((package (or package feature))) ; XXX: can I have a macro produce multiple forms instead of nesting like this? `(eval-and-compile (eval-when-compile (unless (or (require ‘,feature nil t) (fboundp ‘flycheck-byte-compile-dest-file)) ; don’t run within flycheck (package-install ‘,package))) (require ‘,feature nil t)))) WARNING: does not always work i gotta run guys, this has been great thanks so much sacha |
| Jacob MacDonald | 8:28 PM | See ya! |
| me | 8:28 PM | Bye, Michael! Oops, missed him |
| Jacob MacDonald | 8:29 PM | https://github.com/jaccarmac/dot-emacs-dot-d |
| me | 8:30 PM | Hi Howard! |
| Jacob MacDonald | 8:31 PM | I used Conkerer for a few months to get the Emacs experience with a decent frontend for JS, etc. |
| Sridhar Ratnakumar | 8:32 PM | eww renders images fine; but the layout is not correct |
| Russell Black | 8:32 PM | I have to run to an appointment. Thanks guys! |
| Howard Abrams | 8:33 PM | Never renders perfectly,. but if you are selective in what you are browsing, it is useful for things like programming documentation that fails to supply a info version. |
| srid@srid.ca | 8:33 PM | jittery audio. reconnecting.. |
| srid@srid.ca | 8:34 PM | i can’t hear anyone |
| Sod Oscarfono | 8:39 PM | how about time tracking sacha? |
| Sridhar Ratnakumar | 8:39 PM | how many people here already use org-mode? |
| Jacob MacDonald | 8:39 PM | I use it primarily for literate programming and a little for note taking. |
| Sod Oscarfono | 8:39 PM | i love org-mode! couldn’t live without it |
| Bob Erb | 8:40 PM | couldn’t live w/o org-capture – allows mind like water |
| Sod Oscarfono | 8:41 PM | sorry no mic or camera here, but that is exactly what i needed thanks Sridhar! |
| me | 8:45 PM | Yay! |
| Sridhar Ratnakumar | 8:45 PM | Pomodoro org-pomodor |
| Sod Oscarfono | 8:47 PM | great stuff thanks Sridhar! |
| Jacob MacDonald | 8:52 PM | I’m interested in getting my config to work across multiple OSs. The “correct ” thing to do is to (defvar variable) i believe |
| Sridhar Ratnakumar | 8:52 PM | I’m yet to use emacs for git |
| Jacob MacDonald | 8:52 PM | It’s like any other linter, you have to prioritize the messages. |
| Sridhar Ratnakumar | 8:53 PM | anyone using Emacs 25? apparently supports concurrency |
| Jacob MacDonald | 8:53 PM | I build Emacs from Git, so that’s … fun Look at the use-package source . |
| Bob Erb | 8:57 PM | (when (memq window-system ‘(mac ns)) (exec-path-from-shell-initialize)) |
| Sod Oscarfono | 8:57 PM | i just stick to nix based systems so that saves me any hassle there |
| Sod Oscarfono | 9:04 PM | you seasoned professionals maybe already know this but i recently discovered the ability to export org to open office docs and pdfs from org: C-c C-e o for open office C-c C-e p for pdf. |
| Jason Lewis | 9:05 PM | @sridhar, magit is really nice for using git from emacs |
| Sridhar Ratnakumar | 9:06 PM | http://www.srid.ca/emacs/ is generated from C-c C-e h h |
| Sod Oscarfono | 9:10 PM | hahaha… there’s an app for that -itis! |
| Bob Erb | 9:11 PM | there’s a mode for that |
| Jacob MacDonald | 9:18 PM | I’m out. Thanks for the great discussion! I hope to have more to contribute in the future. |
| Sod Oscarfono | 9:18 PM | do you key forward also in bash? |
| Sridhar Ratnakumar | 9:18 PM | Howard – what font do you use in Emacs, per the screenshot in http://www.howardism.org/Technical/Emacs/literate-devops.html ? |
| Jason Lewis | 9:19 PM | https://github.com/adobe-fonts/source-code-pro |
| Sod Oscarfono | 9:25 PM | workflow/project and time management/ literate programming. maybe a session where we scrutinize/optimise init files ? we spoke a bit about it already but its always good |
| Sod Oscarfono | 9:30 PM | i concur.. thanks sacha |
| Sod Oscarfono | 9:32 PM | cut and paste ninja over here.. hahaha |
| Jason Lewis | 9:33 PM | I’ve still not managed to make the jump to writing much lisp hope to one day |
| Bob Erb | 9:34 PM | URL for Sacha’s book? |
| me | 9:34 PM | https://sachachua.com/read-lisp-tweak-emacs |
| Jason Lewis | 9:35 PM | cool nice tip thanks |
| Zachary Kanfer | 9:36 PM | http://emacsnyc.org/videos.html#2014-06 |
| Howard Abrams | 9:40 PM | http://www.howardism.org/Technical/Emacs/tao-of-emacs.html |
| Sod Oscarfono | 9:40 PM | for those who like sublime style layout i use the graphene starter kit which i think bundles “projectile” … i think.. bad memory sorry… anyways it is now my must have next to org-mode |
| Sod Oscarfono | 9:41 PM | i show those people org-mode and that usually gets them interseted |
| me | 9:41 PM | Sod: Nice! |
| Sod Oscarfono | 9:42 PM | for me the prospect of never having to change screens… ie buffers at will |
| Sod Oscarfono | 9:43 PM | yea and just being able to fire up a familiar environment on other systems is super pro |
| Bob Erb | 9:46 PM | Cat! |
| Sod Oscarfono | 9:46 PM | i’m currently experimenting with desktop publishing from emacs |
| Zachary Kanfer | 9:48 PM | my init file: https://bitbucket.org/zck/.emacs.d |
| Sod Oscarfono | 9:48 PM | org-mode to pdf to bypass creative cloud / scribus.. but learning latex also. ah thats what i needed to hear cheers jason for sure.. i’m glad i stopped by maybe we also look at where is emacs deficient? can we collaborate on a tool, a bug or whatever. good idea. or we spit out our command history for ideas |
| Jonathan Hill | 9:53 PM | I missed all the great suggestions. |
| Bob Erb | 9:56 PM | Thank you, Sacha. |
| Sod Oscarfono | 9:56 PM | thank you all so much |
| Jason Lewis | 9:57 PM | thanks Sacha! bye |
| Zachary Kanfer | 9:57 PM | bye! Thanks again, Sacha! |
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